This Is Not Jewish

thearcanetheory:

yourcanadianfaggot:

Truth is I have nothing against Jewish people and if  I joke around saying stuff about them ,don’t take it to heart.Though I am against what’s going in Gaza and I have every right to speak my opinion,what gives Israel the right to take their land?Because they lived there like thousand of years ago?They left and that’s all .Then Holocaust happened does that give them the right to come back and do what Hitler did to them to the Palestinians ?No they should be understanding and that it is Palestine’s land,I don’t agree on the way that they are fighting to get it innocent Jewish and Muslim lives are being taken.

“A rich man’s war but a poor man’s blood”

It isn’t right,it isn’t fair what going there.Though Palestine is now considered a nation,freedom isn’t theres yet.

Yeah this isn’t tagged to Jewish people directly but to Zionists

One, your personal politics don’t belong in the Jewish tags. Period.

We are an ethno-religious group, not tools for a certain specific political platform, least of all yours.

why didn’t you just leave it on the zionism tag, ffs

Two, your history is bad and you should feel bad. Stop pretending the Jewish people willingly left their ethnic homeland. Exile was forced. Genocides are common. Did you really think this all began and ended with the Holocaust? White girl, PLEASE.

Three, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, horrific as it is, is in no way comparable to the Holocaust. PERIOD. One was a genocide committed by white supremacists in the name of white supremacy. The other is an ongoing ethno-nationalist conflict to do with dueling narratives of self determination among two indigenous ethnic groups, one which has great power and privilege over the other. Apples and oranges, little girl.

In conclusion, get your ignorant shit the fuck off our tags.

Getting reeeeeeal tired of people who pull the “I have nothing against Jews, but [insert longwinded anti-Semitic screed here].” Here’s the thing: it doesn’t matter if you “have something against” us or not. If you behave and speak like the people who do, you’re doing just as much harm.

Read this, read an actual history book, and stop tagging your bullshit as if Jews and Zionists were interchangeable words, because that bullshit gets Jews with no vote or voice in Israeli policy beaten or killed.

(Source: sidr4)

thearcanetheory:

as-saleem:

It has become fashionable to hate on white people. To the point that when white people complain, they are attacked. Many non-white people revel so much in the fact that they can do and say what ever they want against white people. It is similar to how the Jews view the killing of Palestinians as a form of payback for what happened to them during world war two.

Woah, ok. First off, reverse racism does not exist. I repeat: REVERSE RACISM DOES NOT EXIST.

White people can be victimized; they can face xenophobia; they do not face institutional racism based on their skin colour.

PoC and ethnic minorities have faced horrific abuse and discrimination at the hands of white people for the very fact that they weren’t “white.” No one is “reveling” in it; people are addressing long-standing systems of oppression that hurt them and continue to hurt them!

Also, the Jews DO NOT view the killing of Palestinians as a form of “payback”! What kinda fucked up anti-Semitic bullshit is that?! Judaism abhors killing! Every Jew and Israeli I have ever spoken to, including when I lived in Jerusalem, has expressed nothing but sorrow about death in the conflict. (Though I am sure that genocidal maniacs do exist, because no group is free of their crazies.) The conflict is an ethno-national conflict over states, land, borders, and sovereignty. It is NOT a religious war, nor is it a “war of retribution.” That is the most fucked up shit I have ever heard.

Israel was recognized post-WWII partially due to the guilty conscience Europe and the West had in the willful massacre and genocide of an ethnic minority, and one of the reasons Jews will cite support for Israel’s existence as a state is that throughout the millenia, living as a minority in other states has proven a dangerous, unsafe existence - which includes, but isn’t limited to, the Holocaust.

So, in conclusion:

Just a not-so-friendly reminder that (A) “Jews” is not synonymous with “Zionists,” (B) neither is synonymous with “Israelis,” and (C) what is going on in Gaza is sickening, but it is not viewed as “payback for WWII” by any of the aforementioned groups.

And (D) reverse racism does not exist. It is not a thing. Racism isn’t something that gives you special cred or bragging rights; it’s something that sucks, a lot, and continues to suck on an ongoing, daily basis through your entire life. If you find yourself wanting to be able to say you are a victim of racism, you have almost certainly never experienced racism.

I second thearcanetheory’s gif.

raybanray:

#kanyewest #meme #annefrank #israel #jews #palestine #genocide #jew-nazi #war #obama

Looks like I have to amend this post to add a 20th point: the terms “Jew-Nazi,” “Zionazi,” or any other form of “Jews are just like the Nazis” statement? Always anti-Semitic. This line of “criticism” minimizes both the Holocaust (by basically saying “the Jews are just as bad, so who cares”/”other people suffer too, so who cares”) and the occupation of Gaza (which deserves to be addressed in its own right, not dismissed or oversimplified as “the next Holocaust”). It it unacceptable, period.

Also, if I had a nickel for every time I’ve seen Anne Frank’s image used in mocking, “funny,” anti-Semitic memes on Tumblr, I could buy Donald Trump—and that’s not even counting the rest of the internet. For fuck’s sake, she was a murdered child. If someone used the pictures of Newtown victims in a “funny” image, they’d be ripped to fucking shreds, but when thousands of someones do just that to another murdered child, no one cares? GTFO. If that’s your (general you) idea of humor, do the earth a favor: shut the hell up and don’t breed. Ever.

the-dank-zone:

J00s

Fun Fact: depictions of Jews eating children are ALWAYS anti-Semitic as hell. They are an intentional visual reference to blood libel, the belief that Jews murder Gentile children to ritually consume their blood.

The history of blood libel goes all the way back to Apion in 38 C.E. (whose claim that Jews sacrificed Greek citizens in the Temple led to anti-Jewish pogroms in Alexandria), and continues to the present day. All in all, there have been more than 150 documented cases of Jews being falsely accused of murdering Gentile children for ritual purposes, and in nearly every one of those cases, Jews were fucking murdered.

This shit gets innocent people killed.

1. This shit gets innocent people killed.

This shit gets innocent people killed.

• This shit gets innocent people killed.

This shit gets innocent people killed.

This shit gets innocent people killed.

THIS SHIT GETS INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED.

Take this piece of shit down. Read this. Then either fuck off, or come back only when you can defend one minority group without endangering another.

(Also, it’s spelled Jews, thanks.)

thearcanetheory:

myfaceismogadon:

Eshu’s Playground: How to Criticize Israel Without Being Anti-Semitic

moomaldthings:

rknjl:

this-is-not-jewish:

If you’ve spent any time discussing or reading about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, I guarantee you’ve heard some variation of this statement:

OMG, Jews think any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic!

In the interests of this post, I’m going to assume…

I totally agree with all this, but I kind of feel like there’s another level where you can be all PC and not do any of these things and still be anti-Semitic in your criticism of Israel, and it’s really what’s kept me as a Jew from getting involved in Pro-Palestine activism. I’m just talking from the Australian perspective, but Israel bashing has been a CONSTANT presence in the mainstream media and in white non-Jewish leftie circles at least since the second intifada (before that I was a kid and not reading many newspapers). And I don’t know quite how to say it, it’s not like Israel doesn’t deserve to be criticised, but there’s always seemed like some *extra* level of anger that’s reserved for Israel. 

Like “Israel is just as bad as apartheid South Africa”… um OK, you think Australia isn’t? The whole country is an occupied territory, and I’m not being trite. Israel is occupying Palestinian land and locking up Palestinian children? OK, well white Australians are occupying aboriginal land , and locking up Aboriginal children: Aboriginal young people (under 18) are 48 times more likely to be imprisoned than white young people. FOURTY EIGHT times, let that sink in, let that make you as angry as you are about Israel. There’s 11,000 Palestenian prisoners out of a population of 2 million? well there’s 8400 Aboriginal prisoners out of a population of 600,000… which one is a bigger percentage?

And like it’s terrible that Israel is bulldozing olive groves and orchards, but where do you think the wealth of white Australian comes from? They say that Australia was built on the back of the sheep… and who’s  farmland did this take place on? And even more explicitly, successful Aboriginal farms like Coranderrk were undermined and stolen by white neighbours!

I don’t know, I feel like it’s really slippery issue to talk about, it’s not like white activists don’t care about these things too, I feel like it’s kind of just a “vibe” thing, it kind of comes down to white non-Jews being just a bit *too* pissed off about Israel relative to how pissed off they are about other stuff.

Something that really summed up this vibe was the Louis Theroux special where he goes to Israel. This is a gonzo journalist who goes and spends weekends with the KKK and white separatists in South Africa, and gets them to like him and let their guard down and say revealing things. But when he visits Israeli settlers in the Occupied Territories, his contempt is so palpable that they won’t even talk to him. Like he’s about 100 times more empathetic to the fucking Klan than the Jewish settlers, something *weird* is going on. 

And my gut feeling is that it’s a case of Jews being scapegoated so that non-Jews can avoid thinking about their own complicity in white supremacism. And I’m not pulling this out of thin air, like it’s pretty well established that “blame the Jews” is kind of a standard response in white Western countries over the last thousand years ago

Anyway like I said, I’m not involved in much activism at the moment, but I do feel like recently things are shifting to a better place with the BDS movement, there’s lots more Jews and Palestinians involved, and it seems to be more reflexive about the potential problems.

But yeah, I’d love to know if anyone else thinks this is a thing, or maybe I’m just making it all up?!

No you aren’t the only one to feel this. Living in Britain I get so fed up of all these white goy radikewls being so outraged about Israel. About how imperialistic, racist, cruel those Israelis are. As if Britain didn’t write the book on that bullshit. As if Britain still isn’t involved in those kinds of atrocities. As if Britain hasn’t got one iota of responsibility for the historic oppression of the Palestinian people. But nah it’s fine when the Brits do it, it’s only evil if it’s done by the Jews.

When my family came to Britain seeking refuge you deported them into the hands of Nazis and now you’re all so angry that they decided they would be better off in Israel? Fuck off goys.

Excuse me, I needed this on my blog.

Same here.

iliveforpalestine:

To all you bloggers who have attacked me for my post… ZIONISM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH JUDAISM!

So, again, GOD BLESS THE REAL JEWS.

No, no, no.

Stop talking.

STOP.

Neturei Karta (the anti-Zionist Jews everyone keeps pointing to) are Jews.  Reform Jews are Jews.  Jews who favor a two-state solution are Jews.  Jews who support Israel’s policies are Jews.  THEY ARE ALL REAL JEWS.  You can say you AGREE with certain Jews, you can’t say that makes them “real Jews.”  They are real Jews whether they agree with you or not.

If you think you’re qualified to state who is or isn’t a “real Jew,” despite having NO Jewish background whatsoever, then answer me this:

1. What are the “Three Oaths” the Neturei Karta base their opposition to the State of Israel on?
2. Where do they draw their sect name from?
3. Are Neturei Karta Hasidic or Litvish?  What’s the difference?
4. What is the difference between Neturei Karta and Toldos Aharon (another staunchly anti-Zionist sect)?
5. How do Haredi groups (including Neturei Karta and Toldos Aharon both) differ from other Orthodox groups?

Oh, too hard?  Sorry.  How about some questions about Judaism more generally?

1. What is halakha and how does it define who is a Jew?
2. Which major movement/movements of Judaism differ from that view?  What is the definition of who is a Jew given by that group/those groups?
3. What are five differences between Ashkenazi Judaism and Sephardi/Mizrahi Judaism?
4. What are the differences in conversion procedure among the different movements of Judaism?

Still nothing?  Then how about:

1. How many distinct commandments do Jews believe can be found in the Torah?
2. What are the names of the Jewish pilgrimage festivals?  Name two special practices or traditions associated with each.
3. What is the most important prayer of the Jewish liturgy, and how many times a day must it be recited?  What Jewish ritual objects must contain a parchment copy of that prayer?

Still don’t know? 

Then shut the fuck up, read this (and before you jump down my throat, this too), and stop making an unnecessarily anti-Semitic ass of yourself.

REAL ANTI-RACISM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH ANTI-SEMITISM.

Sincerely, a pro-Palestinian-statehood Jew who has no fucking patience for either Neturei Karta or recalcitrant anti-Semites, however much I agree with their basic cause

P.S. That sign you originally blogged was a fake manufactured on a “funny church signs” website.  Just thought you should know.

(Source: justanotherpalestinian)

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how on earth are you trying to prove your point by saying that “photoshop” post had hidden anti-semitism in it? how? i dont get it?  it was a misunderstanding a wrong post i made against ISRAEL and Zionism not Judaism you’re logic is messed up and yeh i said those jews are true jews cause they are more knowledgable iv seen them crushing little zionists like you who came to argue them, if you can’t argue them to defend your racist/fascist political ideology ofcourse you’re on the wrong side of history, and im sorry thx i wont say from now on “true jews” ill just say people on the truth. 

No, no, no.

Stop talking.

STOP.

Neturei Karta are Jews.  Reform Jews are Jews.  Jews who favor a two-state solution are Jews.  Jews who support Israel’s policies are Jews.  THEY ARE ALL TRUE JEWS.  You can say you AGREE with certain Jews, you can’t say that makes them “true Jews.”  They are true Jews whether they agree with you or not.

If you think you’re qualified to state who is or isn’t a “true Jew” (or who is or isn’t knowledgeable about Judaism), despite having NO Jewish background whatsoever, then answer me this:

1. What are the “Three Oaths” the Neturei Karta base their opposition to the State of Israel on?
2. Where do they draw their sect name from?
3. Are Neturei Karta Hasidic or Litvish?  What’s the difference?
4. What is the difference between Neturei Karta and Toldos Aharon (another staunchly anti-Zionist sect)?
5. How do Haredi groups (including Neturei Karta and Toldos Aharon both) differ from other Orthodox groups?

Oh, too hard?  Sorry.  How about some questions about Judaism more generally?

1. What is halakha and how does it define who is a Jew?
2. Which major movement/movements of Judaism differ from that view?  What is the definition of who is a Jew given by that group/those groups?
3. What are five differences between Ashkenazi Judaism and Sephardi/Mizrahi Judaism?
4. What are the differences in conversion procedure among the different movements of Judaism?

Still nothing?  Then how about:

1. How many distinct commandments do Jews believe can be found in the Torah?
2. What are the names of the Jewish pilgrimage festivals?  Name two special practices or traditions associated with each.
3. What is the most important prayer of the Jewish liturgy, and how many times a day must it be recited?  What Jewish ritual objects must contain a parchment copy of that prayer?

Still don’t know? 

Then shut the fuck up, read this (and before you jump down my throat, this too), and stop making an unnecessarily anti-Semitic ass of yourself.

Sincerely, a pro-Palestinian-statehood Jew who is NOT Neturei Karta (for many reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with Israel) and who has no fucking patience for recalcitrant anti-Semites however much I agree with their basic cause

(Source: kamranzaib, via kamranzaib)

standardreview:

this-is-not-jewish:

Please note up front that I am not Palestinian, or Arab, or Muslim. I am an American Jew. So any list I draw up with this title is doomed to be incomplete, because there are a lot of facets of the Palestinian experience that I just don’t see.

HOWEVER.

I’ve seen a shocking amount of orientalist…

“People who are poor and oppressed, on the whole, engage in more violence and subscribe to more extremist forms of religions—regardless of what religions they practice, because the real problem isn’t the religion, it’s the poverty and oppression.”

Just to nitpick in this otherwise excellent post: We have a tendency to see the way oppressed people behave as violent in a way we don’t see capitalism, hegemony, and political power as violent. I get this, and I appreciate that this post understands the roots of that kind of violence, but rhetorically I’d like us to move away from it. Oppression is violence. Capitalism is violence. If you use a ballot measure, or a vote, or a dollar to fuck someone up, that’s violence. Using police to quell protests is violence. Even if we think of violence as value-neutral, as just a tool to be used on the side of right or wrong (I don’t feel this way, but…), sitting in an office wearing a tie and signing a piece of legislation that takes away rights like health care, or someone’s home, or the right to move freely from one town to the next is an act of violence. So when we turn on the TV (I’m for a moment going to talk about my experience in America, even though this post was originally about Israel, because most of this blog’s readership is in America) and see that someone poor robbed a convenience store, we must not forget the acts of violence committed by rich people, constantly, that give the poor no options.

Reblogging because this is a REALLY salient point about oppression in general. (I wonder if there’s a qualifier I could put before “violence” in the original post to reflect this. Overt violence, perhaps? I’ll think on it.)

My inbox is always open, and I welcome valid, reasoned criticisms of my “don’t be anti-Semitic” and “don’t be racist” guideline posts.

However.

If you send me submissions along the lines of, “but Palestinian children really AREN’T as innocent as other children, and Palestinians DON’T care about their children as much as other groups” or “but Zionists DO control the government and they probably paid you to write this, because pro-Palestinians would NEVER say much of what’s on this list so you’re just lying to make them look bad” (yes, these are both paraphrases of actual shit in my inbox), I do this:

Interestingly, all such posts came from either emailed submissions or (in one case) a completely empty blog. Shocking, just shocking, I know.

(EDIT: Another fun fact?  So far, 100% of submissions using the phrase “political correctness” anywhere in the post have gone totally going off the rails into Bigot Canyon.  Again, shocking.)

allenahurwitz asked: So we should accept "palestine as a place" and their "right for land" but we shouldn't expect them to do the same. Your points 11 and 15 are contradicting each other. I see your points in the dehumanizing aspect, and honestly I feel bad for the innocent Palestinians who Hamas is using as a shield, but is that Israel's fault? No. You're praying for peace- Israel is trying to ensure it by killing terrorists. i hope people are afraid to bomb Israel ever again.

Oh boy.  Where to start?

So we should accept “palestine as a place” and their “right for land” but we shouldn’t expect them to do the same.

Palestinians exist.  That’s a fact.  Israel has a legal right to exist, at least within its recognized borders.  Also a fact.  However, demanding that one or the other side publicly or repeatedly affirm those facts is a tactic used to (a) prevent the other side from making its points by forcing a change in topic and (b) present your side as the arbiter of what constitute “legitimate” views. 

No, you don’t get to shout over other people and call it dialog.  File that under “really fucking obvious.”

Your points 11 and 15 are contradicting each other.

Point 11: Don’t claim there’s “no such thing” as Palestine or Palestinians.

Point 15: Don’t demand that Palestinians or their allies take public note of Israeli casualties, affirm Israel’s right to exist, or publicly repudiate Hamas.

You use that word “contradictory.”  I do not think it means what you think it means.

I also think you’ve failed to read this post, in which I address the same bullshit from pro-Palestinian groups against Jews.  Read it, absorb it, and if you still want to whine about how unfair or one-sided I am, you can come back and make a better stab at intelligent argument.  (See in particular Point 3 and Point 10, which correlate pretty directly to Points 11 and 15 of this list.)

I see your points in the dehumanizing aspect, and honestly I feel bad for the innocent Palestinians who Hamas is using as a shield, but is that Israel’s fault? No.

Uh, yes.  Yes it is.  When you confine a bunch of people to one densely-populated spot, deny them freedom to move anywhere else, shell the shit out of them, and then say “Well, if they hadn’t lived so close to Hamas, this wouldn’t have happened,” YES it is your fucking fault.  When you exercise absolute control over those people but deny them political representation, assassinate their chosen leaders, cut off food and medical supplies, imprison them without charges or trial, and allow your citizens to steal their land, homes, and very lives with impunity, YES you are in part to blame for the fact they launch rockets back.

I am sorry that your Israeli* privilege has blinded you and made you ignorant, but that’s not an excuse.  During ceasefires, Israelis live free from molestation and violence.  During ceasefires, Palestinians continue to be harassed, robbed, shot, detained without trial, and nearly starved.  If you turn a blind eye to that or claim it doesn’t matter, you are a shitty person.  Period.  End of discussion.

You’re praying for peace- Israel is trying to ensure it by killing terrorists.

And Israel has succeeded marvelously at that, I must say.  (Yes, that was sarcasm.  However could you tell?)

i hope people are afraid to bomb Israel ever again.

In other words, “let’s bomb the shit out of them to make them realize that bombing the shit out of people doesn’t accomplish anything.”  Which is inherently illogical, because even if you succeed at your immediate objective, you actually prove the point you were trying to disprove (namely that the way to get populations to accede to your will is to bomb them a lot).

I tend to prefer defense plans that have a prayer in hell of working, personally.

Being young and naive doesn’t give you a pass to be racist.  Neither does being Jewish.  If you can’t support Israel without being racist, then for the good of Israel, you need to shut up and let the adults do the talking.

*Edited because thearcanetheory is right.  As usual.